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  • This correction ain’t all that much yet…

    be careful what you wish for. You may just get it

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    The Grauniad sets us right: On the sea of red v sea of green debate, the answer is, of course, that red is an auspicious colour in Chinese culture, indicating wealth. Thanks to Tom Phillips, our man in Beijing.

    All around there are headlines of market corrections and doom and mayhem, plus the curious fact that the Chinese seem to use green for falling prices

    So an Ermine takes a look and wonders, hmm, is it yet time to pump up the old HYP with a bit of cheap stuff? One of the shares I could use is Unilever, I recall being a bit sore when I read UTMT had got in at about £24 and I was already well behind the curve. So I sat on my hands, there’s always be another day, plus I’m not really that keen on a desultory 3.8% yield… In an HYP it is crucial to get a decent yild when you buy, because one of the corollaries of a HYP peortfolio tends to be that these are established companies, and Slater reminds us that elephants don’t gallop. So you must. not. overpay.

    UTMT has described the firm’s strengths and weaknesses well, notable is a fair sized exposure to emerging markets, and investors really hate anything to do with EMs right now, and so the company should be down the toilet, right?

    UTMT would still have the edge on me

    UTMT would still have the edge on me

    Well, not so fast. Now it could certainly get there, it depends on whether this market rout has got legs. I feel it does, but others don’t, and what do I know. However, it does highlight the need to have a clear target of where to be prepared to buy at. For HYP shares (usually in the FTSE100) I start to get uncomfortable paying more that the long-run market PE of about 15 for the FTSE100 although many of these big brands tend to be high-ish, which is why I hadn’t got in with UTMT. I was spoiled by building a lot of my HYP in 2009 and 2011, there is some hazard that that makes me overcautious buying in normal times, and to totally go on strike in heady times like the last three years.


    memories of this being in on the radio in the lab in the heady dotcom days of 1997, when buying dotcom shares was going to make me my fortune, though work was good enough I had no thoughts of FI/RE

    So I’m all for a market rout, but let’s face it, what I really want, what I really really want, is a bear market – 20% off recent highs at least, and half of that fall is to get to fair value IMO. And so far, sadly, none of the trigger values for stocks I actually want to buy has been reached, despite all the excitement. There are, of course, areas of temptation. I really want to buy JII, but it’s just not really there yet. So far, this seems to be a rout, not a market capitulation, and the starting point had been from outrageously lofty levels. We’re back to late 2012 on the FTSE100. I want the Summer of 2011…

    So in the absence of anything really worth buying I’m drip-feeding into my existing holding of Vanguard Lifestrategy 100. Not because it’s terribly exciting, and the price is only back down to what it was at the beginning of this year, but because the cost structure of funds on TD are made for drip-feeding. I’d hate to look back if this turns out to be short lived and to have done nothing in the swoon. That’s the trouble with trying to use downturns – the hardest part is actually buying in the fog of war…

     
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